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| “ | Pathetic. After you left the future, and after Old Wallace kicked me out, I began my training. For 10 years, I did nothing but study all of your skills, your strengths, your weaknesses, because there's only one way to end this: ME VS THE WORLD! I have to destroy all of you! | „ |
| ~ Even Older Scott explaining his intentions. |
| “ | You immediately assume I messed up! But I’m a good husband! I do the dishes, I walk the cats, I make the spaghettis. And I won’t take you back to the past until I know for a fact that you won’t date Ramona Flowers. Because she is the one who’s bad news! NOT US! | „ |
| ~ Older Scott lashes out at his past self while revealing his true colours. |
| “ | Wait, uh, uh, me? Wait, who, uh, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, b-b... (sent back to the future) Awww, well this is great, not! | „ |
| ~ Older Scott's final words after being set back to the future by Super Ramona. |
Scott Pilgrim, also known as Older Scott, is the titular main antagonist of the 2023 Netflix anime Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, based on the Scott Pilgrim comic books by Bryan Lee O'Malley. He is a future version of the titular character, who, after divorcing his wife Ramona Flowers, goes back in time to make sure his past self never meets her.
He is voiced by Will Forte in the original English version, who also played Principal Farquhare in The Cleveland Show, Eddy Davenport in Lab Rats, Chester V and his holograms in Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 and Doug in Strays. In the Japanese dub, he is voiced by Fumihiko Tachiki, who also voiced Gendo Ikari in Neon Genesis Evangelion, Akainu in One Piece, Gill in Street Fighter and Sloth in Fullmetal Alchemist.
Contents
- 1 Biography
- 2 Relationships
- 2.1 Family
- 2.2 Enemies
- 3 Appearance
- 3.1 As Older Scott
- 3.2 As Even Older Scott
- 4 Personality
- 5 Powers and Abilities
- 6 Gallery
- 6.1 2 Scott 2 Pilgrim
- 6.2 The World vs Scott Pilgrim
- 7 Trivia
- 8 External Links
- 9 Navigation
Biography[]
Older Scott's life very much parallels that of the Scott Pilgrim from the comics and the movie: a bass player from Canada, Scott had been reeling from a break-up with his ex, Envy Adams, and had begun dating teenager Knives Chau. During this, he met and fell for Ramona Flowers, forcing him to beat her seven evil exes: Matthew Patel, Lucas Lee, Todd Ingram, Roxanne Richter, the twins Kyle and Ken Katayanagi, and finally Gideon Gordon Graves. Winning her love, Scott and Ramona married and had a wonderful honeymoon in Florida.
Eventually, the two hit a rough patch in their marriage, and got separated. Despite the fact that Ramona merely needed space, Scott was extremely distraught over this, interpreting this as a divorce, and started living with his old roommate Wallace Wells, who had become rich owing to being married to a Nintendo employee. When Wallace jokingly suggested that he go back in time to not meet Ramona, Scott took it seriously. He asked the twins, with whom he had made amends and formed a band called "Pop'n TwinBee", to help him, and the two used their robot, who had the ability to create portals owing to being a vegan like Todd, to go back in time to Scott's fight with Patel. During the fight, as Patel was about to punch Scott, the robot opened a portal, allowing Older Scott to drag his past self through, thus altering the timeline to where Patel usurped Graves as leader of the League of Evil Exes, and Scott is believed to be dead.
After taking Scott to the future, Older Scott unmasks himself and shows him around, taking him to Wallace's apartment, and explaining everything to him through a VR headset. Older Scott attempts to convince his younger self to not get back with Ramona, and puts nanobots in Scott's coffee as a backup plan, which create an anti-kiss forcefield which would prevent Ramona and Scott from making out. However, Scott refuses, and goes to Future Ramona, who travels back in time with him to the point where Ramona, Knives, and Sex-Bob-Omb figure out the twins involvement in Scott's disappearance. Furious when his younger self chooses to stay with Ramona, Older Scott, after being kicked out of Wallace's apartment, spends the next 10 years training to defeat his past self, never leaving his training room (and possibly splitting up Pop'n TwinBee as well).
When Scott and Ramona find out they aren't able to kiss owing to the nanobots, they go to Matthew Patel's theater show based on the alternate timeline that Older Scott created, believing that one of the Evil Exes is responsible. The show is interrupted when Even Older Scott teleports his past self, Ramona, Sex Bob-Omb, Knives, Neil, the League, and Graves's new girlfriend Julie Powers, to a blank subspace, intending to destroy everyone. During the fight, Older Scott manages to defeat nearly everyone, and faces off against his past self, telling him he is destined to divorce Ramona. After delivering a massive blow to his younger self, Older Scott attempts to kill him, only to be interrupted by Future Ramona, who tells him that she still loved him during the rough patch and now she doesn't anymore due to his idiotic actions and petty nature but decides to fix him to fix everything between them. Past and Future Ramona then fuse into Super Ramona who teleport Older Scott back to the future to help him deal with his issues and fix up all of the mess he had caused, much to his anger.
Relationships[]
Family[]
- Mr. Pilgrim - Father
- Mrs. Pilgrim - Mother
- Lawrence West Pilgrim - Brother
- Stacey Pilgrim - Sister
- Ramona Flowers - Ex-Wife
Enemies[]
- Scott Pilgrim - Past Self
- Ramona Flowers
- Wallace Wells - Former Housemate
- Knives Chau - Ex-Girlfriend
- Julie Powers
- Stephen Stills - Former Bandmate
- Kim Pine - Ex-Girlfriend and Former Bandmate
- Young Neil
- Gordon Goose/Gideon Graves
- Matthew Patel
- Lucas Lee
- Todd Ingram
- Roxie Richter
- Kyle and Ken Katayangi
- Robot-01
- Envy Adams - Ex-Girlfriend
Appearance[]
As Older Scott[]
Older Scott has tawny hair, just like his younger self, but he now has gray sideburns due to his age. He has also grown a beard, which seems to be unappreciated by everyone except his younger self. Although he still wears his yellow and red star t-shirt and navy parka, they appear to be more worn out and dirtier. Future Scott has also gained weight and is later shown exercising as he becomes Even Older Scott.
As Even Older Scott[]
Even Older Scott's appearance is vastly different from his younger selves. He has built up considerable muscle in the ten years he spent training in the room. His hair has grown even longer and has turned completly gray, unlike the tawny hair of his younger selves. Although he still wears a navy parka, it has become slightly too small for him. Additionally, he now sports bandages on his hands and a headband tied back. His skin also appears darker than before.
Personality[]
Older Scott (and by extension: Even Older Scott) is similar to his past self, except that after the misinterpreted divorce from Future Ramona, he mostly did not overcome his problems as a person, and he stayed stuck in them. This causes him to fall into villainy, having a big resentment towards Ramona for leaving him and becomes grief-stricken, immature and gullible, as the resulted "break up" was tens time more worse than his breakup with Envy Adams.
What Older Scott did not realize is that in reality, Future Ramona only asked that she needed some space between the two. And it was because of his idiotic actions after ten more years that Ramona decides that she no longer loves him for what he has become.
Powers and Abilities[]
- Fighting Prowess: He was called a great fighter, and this stayed the same, this is shown by beating all the evil exes twice and almost killing Ramona and his younger self.
- Superpowers (Even Older Scott): When Wallace kicked him out he stayed in a house for ten years, training for the powers of all Ramona's evil exes, and gets a cool red aura over his body and eyes.
- Vegan Powers (Even Older Scott): Scott went on a vegan diet as a part of his training, giving him telekinesis.
- Planning: As said by Scott himself he made lots of complicated plans so this shows an ability to make plans (even if they are stupid or not)
- Immense Durability: Even though he gets punched, kicked, and stabbed he gets back up with barley a scratch
- Immense Strength: As Even Older Scott, he has an immense amount of muscle, resembling most of the characters from the Dragonball series. With this strength, he was able to beat down the League of Evil Exes, punch Knives Chau hard enough to send the highlights out of her hair, and destroy Ramona's Large Hammer.
Gallery[]
2 Scott 2 Pilgrim[]
The World vs Scott Pilgrim[]
Trivia[]
- Contrary to popular belief, Older Scott is not actually either Scott's canon incarnation from the comics nor from the film adaptation, but rather an alternate version who went through the same events, but diverges into never overcame his issues properly.
- There is evidence that this is true: For example, neither The Power of Love sword, Power of Understanding sword, Power of Self-Respect sword, or Nega Scott were seen in memory chamber, meaning that he either never gained the formers, or did and lost them due to the misinterpreted divorce, and either never confronted the latter, or did and defeated him.
- For this reason, he serves as a dark reflection of Scott, as he represents what he would become if he never resolved his emotional issues, with Ramona and Scott both recognizing this during the final battle. The reason supporting why Older Scott isn't the canon Scott is that it would go against the whole point of the series, being that Scott and Ramona are both terrible people who want to be together by acknowledging and working past their flaws to be better people. For this same reason, it also may be why they divorced: if Older Scott really didn't acknowledge his flaws, then it's presumed that Ramona didn't either and chose to run as she always does. It could also explain why neither contacted the other, as they were both afraid of facing their pain, as they were in the comics (best displayed when Scott went into a coma after Envy called him and when Ramona planned to leave Gideon a letter announcing their separation instead of confronting him)
- Though unintentionally, this also opens up the possibility that there are other universes in the Scott Pilgrim franchise.
- During the final battle, he punches Knives so hard, the red highlights in her hair fly out. This is a reference to Volume 3, Scott Pilgrim and the Infinite Sadness, where Lynette Guycott does the same thing to her.
- In the movie version, Todd Ingram punches her highlights out instead.
- Older Scott does not appear in any of the show's promotional material. When the trailers dropped, fans of the comics naturally assumed the show was going to be a faithful adaptation of comics, with Gideon as the overarching villain. However, once the show was released and viewers saw Matthew Patel apparently defeating Scott at the end of the first episode, the story was revealed to be an alternate universe retelling, with Older Scott as the villain, and Gideon as a secondary character.
- In one way or another, Older Scott could technically be considered Ramona's eighth evil ex, as it was their divorce that broke him and forced him to go to extreme measures to ensure that they never meet, to save his heartbreak. This was referenced before Future Ramona's intervention, where Ramona asks Scott "Do I want to date that guy?". Scott replied that he does not want to be like Older Scott, and Ramona asks what makes him so sure he won't. Ironically, a similar thing happened years before in Volume 5 of the comics, Scott Pilgrim vs. The Universe. When Ramona found out that Scott had cheated on Knives Chau with her, she angrily declared him to be a bad person and, in her own words, coldly said to him "but you're just another evil ex-boyfriend waiting to happen, aren't you?".
- Will Forte and Julian Cihi (who voiced the Twins) are the only main cast members to not have been in the movie.
External Links[]
- Older Scott on the Scott Pilgrim Wiki
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