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igotit

21st June 2015, 01:18

Picked up a 91 for $50,it was headed for scrap yard for $60 price tag.
The mechanic working on it for 8 years says she has numerous electrical issues,no compression.
They changed about $500 of parts .....still wont run.
Long story short they gave up on her,windows been down over a year,aint ran since 07.

Sofar i found fuel pump toast,really bad fuel,no compression,and missing parts.
Mechanic states he had it running fine,then died due to loss of compression.
I dug into her,firing order was set for 1.8l,i have 1.6l.
Cams were timmed 180 degrees out,and cam gears were installed on wrong notch.
Tonight i went through timming....now makes 170- 180 psi compression,but does leak down slowly.
Fired her up on carb cleaner.
Interior is toast,top is toast.
But $50 she aint that bad.....bought it from looking at pics,took a gamble.

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150615_201038_zpskafj2ufm.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150615_201038_zpskafj2ufm.jpg.html)
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vkeith

21st June 2015, 03:14

:welcome:

Wow! Fifty dollars. The tail lights are worth that. Even better, you're bringing it back to life.

With all the issues the car has from looking at the photos, be careful or you could end up with a labor of love that's worth half of what you have in it, at best.

Other than that, if you can get it running reliably, the car is already halfway there to being a cheap track car, as lightness has already been added.

With a few decent cheap new and used parts, you could have a fun little race car for next to nothing.

Welcome to the madness and addiction that is Miata.

igotit

21st June 2015, 03:35

Im aiming for $1500 total for a fun reliable ride.
I agree.....the sale of the tailights will refund my cost.
I really lucked out on this deal.

To make the deal sweeter....notary was free.
Just $10 made the difference if this ride lived or died.

handyandy

21st June 2015, 06:28

Definitely a 50 well spent, awesome, congrats

maarp

21st June 2015, 07:52

When foamectomies go bad....:rofl:

Laz

21st June 2015, 08:02

Love it! And it's the right color!!

guudasitgets

21st June 2015, 08:36

make a track car out of it

exmgman

21st June 2015, 13:56

[QUOTE=vkeith;7540032]:welcome:

With all the issues the car has from looking at the photos, be careful or you could end up with a labor of love that's worth half of what you have in it, at best.

If it's a labor of love the value is irrelevant, if you have the time and room do it as a hobby and take your time it will be a learning experience. I haven't made a dime on any hobby I had but the experience is priceless.

igotit

21st June 2015, 14:29

Thanx guys
Ill get her back to stock condition before deciding its fate.
The issues are slowly pilling up.
Clutch not working,bad fuel pump,possible cooling problems...ect

The slave cylinder isnt working....now i know why.the clutch system is frozen an filled with a mix of greese/oil

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150621_131902_zpst6lqfpkr.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150621_131902_zpst6lqfpkr.jpg.html)

Indiana Randy

21st June 2015, 14:38

First, in miata.net style, I have to say; I got a car like that for only $25. You over paid. :p:p:p Kidding of course

By the looks of some of the rust in your pics, I wonder if you have room for a wrecked parts car to swap parts?

igotit

21st June 2015, 14:45

First, in miata.net style, I have to say; I got a car like that for only $25. You over paid. :p:p:p Kidding of course

By the looks of some of the rust in your pics, I wonder if you have room for a wrecked parts car to swap parts?

overpaid....if it helps justify the price,free notary fees and free delivery from 20 miles away....didnt even pay fuel cost for transport.

that area is the only rust on the car,thats only surface rust on the firewall of the engine bay.
i havent seen another miata lying around down here,i searched junk yards within 600 miles,pull-a-parts....ect....none available locally.
miatas are kinda hard to find on the louisiana gulf coast.
our dealerships didnt sell many of them.

Indiana Randy

21st June 2015, 15:14

overpaid....if it helps justify the price,free notary fees and free delivery from 20 miles away....didnt even pay fuel cost for transport.

That was a joke. :D

You will sort everything out in time. Be patient. That clutch fluid looks nasty! You ought to be able to flush that all out though.

igotit

21st June 2015, 15:17

I got the joke,im very sarcastic....love sarcasim.
All good.

wannafbody

21st June 2015, 16:26

For $50 you can't go wrong as long as you don't mind dumping $1000 into parts. Luckily lots of cheap parts for NA's on ebay and Miata recyclers.

igotit

21st June 2015, 16:47

Im willing to put upto $1500 to make it a reliable daily driver.

been trying to salvage the fuel tank for a few days now.

Heres my cheap fuel tank flushing tool.its from those water balloon kits you see on tv.its the filling tube.
Works great,flexible,gets into gaps into the baffle,just enough pressure to break loose all that gummed up ethonol.

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after 10 full tank overflow flushes im making headway.
first pic was about the 5th flush.
i disposed of the old fuel in my fire pit.....had a hard time getting it to burn.
then used 1 gallon of pinsol....pinesol breaks up ethonol,once dried the ethonol flakes up and floats on the waters surface,fill tank with water and the gunk waterfalls out the overflow.

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150621_144926_zpsykvvbzcp.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150621_144926_zpsykvvbzcp.jpg.html)

and how it looks now

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150621_155323_zpse6wu2ccn.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150621_155323_zpse6wu2ccn.jpg.html)

UNGN

21st June 2015, 20:50

My $850 Smurf has turned into a $4000 Smurf, but it has been worth every penny.

The body on your $50 car is nicer than my $850 car. Congrats!

White Vinegar does a good job removing rust in the tank.

igotit

21st June 2015, 21:13

Thanx
Ill have to get some white viniger soon.

cajun312

21st June 2015, 21:31

overpaid....if it helps justify the price,free notary fees and free delivery from 20 miles away....didnt even pay fuel cost for transport.

There is a Spec Miata builder in Houston who sells lots of used parts. He usually has stuff listed in the auto parts section of the Houston Craigslist.

igotit

21st June 2015, 22:15

There is a Spec Miata builder in Houston who sells lots of used parts. He usually has stuff listed in the auto parts section of the Houston Craigslist.

ill have to look int that once i get further ahead on cash.
i had planned on new top,new fuel pump.
was going to find used door panels,passenger door window assembly,all the stock plastic intake piping ect.
ill look him up

thanx

JBSC6

21st June 2015, 22:17

Congrats ! Awesome effort and it will pay off. The miata a a blast to drive....

Laz

22nd June 2015, 12:21

If anyone cares I really did not want to spend a lot of money on subs without knowing how they were going to work out. I purchased these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/390384074426?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

They have been great so far. I did have to put sound deadning material on the parcel shelf, but I have had them for more than a year and had no issues with them. Well worth the little money.

MC70

22nd June 2015, 15:21

Me and my buddy were lucky enough to find a Miata shop that shut down and the building owner was selling off all sorts of stuff. Toward the end he was giving stuff away to clear out the area. I have a few carpets and he has several seats. There are also a LOT of other parts we will probably never use. Take a trip to Dallas and we'll let you hook us up with some much needed garage/storage space. While it won't be great condition stuff, it'll get you by for a dd or a track rat.

No charge. Folks saving Miatas always make me happy.

igotit

22nd June 2015, 15:40

I appreciate the offer,but dallas is a long ride for me.i dont think my 94 mighty max will make it....lol.
I do have a buddy in san antonio,ill ask him if he can go visit.

Thanx

(Edit)
After viewing google maps....thats 8 hr drive from south la.almost same distance from san antiono

MC70

22nd June 2015, 16:23

Yup. It isn't to far for a car-load worth of get-me-by interior & such.

luckyfoot15

22nd June 2015, 16:47

Looks like a hurricane went to town on that car!

igotit

22nd June 2015, 16:58

ive had worse.....shoulda seen the 97 2dr tahoe 4x4 i picked up a few years ago.flawless body but absolutly the worst interior i ever seen.

Jerane

22nd June 2015, 22:01

I cannot help you; however, I am enjoying reading your posts. I did the same kind of things when I was young, bringing back old, early 30's, Fords and this is like a trip on memory lane. Have fun with your NA.

SleekBlackBeauty

22nd June 2015, 22:49

Nice job! I bought a '90 for $500 once. It too had a failed rehab attempt for the engine--partly disassembled as the PO thought it needed a new engine for a moderately bad SNC failure. I did wind up spending $1500 on parts though, but the finished product has been my daughter's DD for more than 3 years now.

mithril

23rd June 2015, 15:44

Keep us posted on the repair with copious photos and costs. I'd love to see how this comes together.

-Bob

mithril

23rd June 2015, 15:46

Thanx
Ill have to get some white viniger soon.

Citric acid may be a more economical solution. You mix it with water and can make the solution as strong as you like. I find 2 to 5 TBS per gallon makes a pretty strong rust remover.

-Bob

Lance Schall

23rd June 2015, 16:37

Mechanic states he had it running fine, then died due to loss of compression. I dug into her,firing order was set for 1.8l,i have 1.6l. Cams were timmed 180 degrees out, and cam gears were installed on wrong notch.Not exactly his (her) best work, eh? I wouldn't take another car to this guy (gal).

Philpug

23rd June 2015, 17:57

If you are in NorCal by chance. I might be able to help you with interior.

igotit

23rd June 2015, 20:40

Thanx for the advise and props guys.
Aint worked on the miata in 2 days,right now my powers out.i really was looking foward to chassis inspection tonight.

This car is that mechanics best work....because of his shady skills.....i wound up with it....lol.

He has a nice dodge stealth awd twin turbo,been parked for 10 years....blew a turbo,you have to remove engine in that car to replace the turbo.while engine was out for turbo replacement.....he noticed his clutch was bad.he didnt replace it.assembled everything,drove 176 miles....blew the poor clutch.
That car was immaculate with 22k miles.
It was sittin 25 ft away from the miata with 3ft high grass around it.body is spotless,interior is showroom quality.

Im located in south louisiana,appreciate the offer....but i cant afford a trip anytime soon.kinda in a financial bind,tryin to get miata ridin as cheap as possible.

Thanx

JoeMerchant

23rd June 2015, 20:49

My $850 Smurf has turned into a $4000 Smurf, but it has been worth every penny.

The body on your $50 car is nicer than my $850 car. Congrats!

White Vinegar does a good job removing rust in the tank.

I bought my Smurf new in '91 for "$500 over invoice" as they used to say back then ($14,067 - Gulf War actually stalled Miata sales for a month or two...)

I've easily got another $14K in Turbo, Diff, Clutch, Wheels, SS lines, etc. etc. etc. And, 24 years of a super-fun daily driver.

I can't believe that $50 would buy such a pretty set of body panels, any working mechanicals are a bonus.

igotit

23rd June 2015, 20:56

I agree.....just the sale of 1 fender could easily recoup my cost sofar.
It was a deal i couldnt pass up.....i dont think anyone could.

emptyminded42

24th June 2015, 15:18

Thanx for the advise and props guys.
Aint worked on the miata in 2 days,right now my powers out.i really was looking foward to chassis inspection tonight.

This car is that mechanics best work....because of his shady skills.....i wound up with it....lol.

Im located in south louisiana,appreciate the offer....but i cant afford a trip anytime soon.kinda in a financial bind,tryin to get miata ridin as cheap as possible.

Thanx

Oh geez, that Stealth would be amazing if it hadn't been sitting... crazy how these kinds of cars get put on blocks because people can't afford to replace things like turbos and transmissions and stuff and they end up sitting in the middle of nowhere for years. Sad to see lots of MR2s end with the same fate - parked, sitting in the sun and rain and just get destroyed by rust and leaky t-tops. :cry:

Can't wait to see your progress on this smurf :) So stoked you rescued it. Hope it's roadworthy soon and inexpensively! You'll love it once it's on the road :thumbs:

igotit

24th June 2015, 18:04

I cant wait to get her back in driving shape,but im deeply in debt with no change to spare.so im going to everything mechanically i can at little to no cost.
Im trying to gather funds for a $30 fuel pump.once i can deliver fuel,i cant run it,fine tune timming,see if i have cooling isdues...ect.

01SEBRG

24th June 2015, 18:37

Friend of mine did this same thing last year with early 70's MG Miget.
Knew nothing about them, but can restore rides as he has a stock '29-'30 Ford pickup that he did all the work on. it's a show piece.
Anyway, he bought one Midget for $500, started working on it, found another for $500 and decided to combine the two, then found another.
Parted two of them for the parts he needed and actually sold the carcasses.
Did all this work in his driveway at home, took him most of the summer. Had it sprayed in the Fall, and now is driving this little gem he built around.
It's a cutie....and I'm not sure, but I think he has less that $2000 into the whole project after things were all done.
Now if I can figure out how to post a pic...Ha!

I never have had the patience or talent to do such things.
A few I know can, and they amaze me....

igotit

24th June 2015, 18:43

thats building on a budget....looks great too.
a friend of mine had a midget......tiny co*ckpit in those cars.

and i did manage to start inspecting the underside of the car,barely any surface rust down there,a few scrapes....normal wear.and magnaflow pipe and exhaust that was crudly welded on to the stock downpipe.

Todd Barney

24th June 2015, 23:24

Im trying to gather funds for a $30 fuel pump.once i can deliver fuel,i cant run it,fine tune timming,see if i have cooling isdues...ect.

I don't normally encourage false economy, but RockAuto has one for $15.55. Autobest part #F4230.

intel_core22

25th June 2015, 13:33

I love this thread keep it comin'
I would love to see that smurf on the road...

welcome, m.net

igotit

25th June 2015, 15:35

Im tryin bro...lol.
She will drive soon

igotit

25th June 2015, 18:32

this morning before work i went into the garage .....noticed something odd about the miata.......the top stays down,but this morning i had a top made of silky spider webs.from trunk to visors....solid silky,soft spider webs.
really a work of art.
apperantly some hidden spider eggs hatched,litterly thousands of tiny brown spiders all over the car.tiny brown dots scattered in the webs
i felt bad spraying them and tearing down the web......but man it was unreal.
i could probally cover my entire pinky finger nail with about 100 of these little crawlers.they were about 0.30 dia leg spread.
even vertical webs connecting the complete underside of the car to the garage floor.

i didnt even think to snap a pic.
my garage is very cluttered.....so im sure for next few weeks ill be exterminating and hearing an ear full from the woman that i live with (wife).

so i guess tonight ill be spraying car again,and may tackle the slave cylinder and clutch fluid flush.

igotit

25th June 2015, 18:44

Just took this pic,zoom in to the left of the pencil....theres a big one...lol.
Guessing the living behind the lip of the top seal.

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dgoggans7972

25th June 2015, 20:03

hey igotit, if you need anything,,,, call my buddy Tom Neel at Partsgroup.com,,Tom used to be about an hour away from me in north alabama... recently he relocated his biz to the Daytona area... he builds and races miatas and sell all his spares off his website.. they are constantly tearing down wrecked miata and parting stuff out... miatas and some rx8s only... he's your guy.. good service, very reliable, very reasonable... if he doesn't have it, nobody will.. phone is (386)446-0051.. he'll ship it to you......

igotit

25th June 2015, 21:01

Thanx d...ill look him up when im ready.

Went down there to do the slave cylinder....i aint sticking my hands down there yet.
One of many spider nest

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_194849_zps9fm761b7.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150625_194849_zps9fm761b7.jpg.html)

MC70

25th June 2015, 21:15

Bug bomb. Like crazy.

igotit

25th June 2015, 21:44

i been using a gal spray of max defense....works well....theres just so may hiding places.
i rolled car in driveway,put on ramps and water hosing the underside thouroughly,plenty spiders came out to play.
ill hose a few more times then spray the car entirely.leave her over night with top down and pray for no rain.

intel_core22

26th June 2015, 21:24

Yeah, spiders like humid weather and you should get pressure washer and spray it out hehehe

99TwilightBlueMica

27th June 2015, 09:00

$50 Miata has got to be some kind of record.

peacefrog_0521

27th June 2015, 10:22

Seriously, if there were a GoFundfMe or other such fundraising effort, I'd give at least a little bit. Only problem is that would put undue pressure on you to actually work on the car and show results. But I'm really curious to see how this plays out.

igotit

27th June 2015, 13:51

www.gofundmymiata.com

Last night i got offered $2000 for her if i get her in driving condition.

greenmonster1918

28th June 2015, 09:03

sell it now

igotit

28th June 2015, 10:32

Im thinking about it,i atleast want to drive her a bit.the buyer is in no hurry.he was born in 91,and always wanted a na miata.

igotit

28th June 2015, 18:59

Been bleeding this clutch for 2 hours now,still nothing till half pedal travel.tried a few different methods...getting nowhere.

Im using a vaccume pump hooked to the bleeder screw,drawing the fluid out the resivior.

Edit

Ive adjusted the rod for thet pedal,i now have firmnetss full pedal travel.
My slave cylinder travels 3/4 in total stroke.

dgoggans7972

29th June 2015, 20:50

i bought a 93 about 6 weeks ago..for $750.. similar situation,, maybe not quite as bad..
owner said it had a fried ECU.. put it in the moldy basem*nt and left it for 4 years... i found it..his shower was leaking right above the hood... i towed it home for $56 (dolly rental at uhaul.).. washed it off.. brushed off the moldy seats...sat it out in the sun for 4-5 days...cleaned it again... then got a ECU from Tom at Partsgroup.. replaced the fuel filter $18 .. drained 6 or so gallons of bad gas out the bottom...
then got it to run for 10 sec or so at a time on starter fluid.. then pulled the fuel pump to find one very rusty, hosed up fuel pump... went to Oreillys and bought a $69 fuel pump (could of gotten one on the net cheaper, but i wanted fast results).. put a new sock on the pump $18.. Car cranked and is now running... Paid $45 for front and back cheap pads locally (rear calipers were seized),, car didnt roll real good... then i spent 5 hours massaging the old brakes, calipers and rotors... everything came back to life pretty good ... i've been driving the car around the neighborhood for a few days now... Next step is changing all the fluids..... all in all I think i'm into it for about a grand...car sounds good and i'm looking at only tires and cosmetics...this not my 1st rodeo,,, i'll post a few pics and wish you luck on yours...

dgoggans7972

29th June 2015, 20:54

the first 2 pics are of my current project... the third is of my 95 that i sold recently and really miss..

dgoggans7972

29th June 2015, 20:59

i am pretty sure, after getting into it, i think i can make this a good car for under $2000... (that's me installing my own top and repainting, dyeing, recarpeting the interior, painting the wheels, and refurbing, touchup, pinstriping, etc...)....

don't be afraid to DIY this thing...you can do it!!

igotit

29th June 2015, 21:16

Your investment looks nice.
Ill be doing alot of diy on this on.
Thanx for the advise

Forrest95M

29th June 2015, 21:39

You make me mad! No rust on a 50$ car but up north a 4000$ Miata has rotten quarters (A.K.A my car). Good luck! Love seeing you bringing it back to life!

01SEBRG

29th June 2015, 21:54

the first 2 pics are of my current project... the third is of my 95 that i sold recently and really miss..

That looks nice....Have you shown the previous owner your care and talent?

dgoggans7972

30th June 2015, 15:56

01sebrg.. not yet... i'm really just getting started... the red 95 took me about a year and a half to bring it up to a really nice condition... cosmetics were about the same.. but it had different mechanical issuses... this is my 4th miata... i've also got a 99 silver auto that i keep up for the wife, but when they built the auto, i think they took the thrill factor out ... so .. i had to have another 5 speed... my wife thinks i'm flipping this one, but.. i may keep it..i should have it pretty much sorted out by fall..

dgoggans7972

30th June 2015, 16:03

another thought..... for those of you who like to tinker like me, it's amazing that you can take a great car like an uncared-for miata... put some elbow grease and a little cash into it, have fun working on it, and get it back on the road for not a whole lot of money....it's actually worth your time and effort and then you have something desirable when you get through with it..... when somebody spots one not being loved, you should put the word out to your buddies and seize the opportunity it presents...

igotit

1st July 2015, 21:57

thanx for all the support guys
this miata is about to go outside for a few weeks....more spiders hatching everyday.

ontop of that aggrevation....dont really wanna discuss my financial issues....but im gonna be homeless soon,already lost my vehicle to repo,foreclosue is in progress......and to top it all off....work is cuttin us to 32 hrs a week.
massive layoffs in south louisiana over the past 8 mths.no jobs open that pay a decent wage.
i was an offshore crane inspector/mechanic,oil field slowed to a crawl.....no work for me.so i was forced to take a massive 50k year pay cut just to have a job.
i been prayin for mths that things would turn around.

anyway.....expect very slow progress,a $30 budget fuel pump and strainer is stopping me from moving foward on driving this sweet project.
progress will be slow from this point on.i have no plans to sell the car,i really wanna get her driving in due time.
wish me luck guys.

igotit

1st July 2015, 22:09

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tremere613

1st July 2015, 22:59

thanx for all the support guys
this miata is about to go outside for a few weeks....more spiders hatching everyday.

I'm really sorry to hear all of that!
I strongly recommend joining your local miata chapter.. A lot of people carry spare parts and own multiple miatas...
Good luck!!

intel_core22

2nd July 2015, 11:49

Keep goin' man, you can do it...We believe in you...

Venturous

3rd July 2015, 10:06

We love the lower gas prices, but your loss of a job is a direct result of it. Hope things get better for you.
Randy

igotit

3rd July 2015, 11:23

As an oilfield worker...i love high prices at the pump,it keeps the gulf coast employed

igotit

5th July 2015, 19:00

I got word that my hours are dropping down to 32 per week.
So that means no extra money.i aint giving up on this project.
For now she will rest in my backyard untill i can figure something out.ill probally cover up with a tarp soon.
Thanx for all the support guys.

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MC70

5th July 2015, 19:39

... high prices at the pump... keeps the gulf coast oil owners swimming in cash and record profits, but they'll still cut the working force if it looks like profits might take a hit.

Fixed it.

MC70

5th July 2015, 19:39

What does it need to get going?

igotit

5th July 2015, 19:47

budget fuel pump and strainer,once thats in it will need fuel line flush,filter change.then i can run it to set timming.....and see what other demons popup...lol.

ill try to salvage the pump that was in it.the mechanic says it was new 1 year ago.....havent tried it,but its nasty looking.
ill try to clean it,then test it.

im in no hurry,still cant afford dmv fees and insurance to drive it.but will get her running anyway.

2trains2

5th July 2015, 20:17

prayed for you & your job situation.

igotit

5th July 2015, 20:44

Thanx brother

MX5/XJ6

7th July 2015, 00:16

Really sorry for your situation, that is rough man. Guess I should also apologize for driving a Volt most days :O

But you got something to mess around with and keep your mind off the other crap, and a killer deal on top of that. Sometimes it's the small stuff.

mrfajita

7th July 2015, 00:48

My $850 Smurf has turned into a $4000 Smurf, but it has been worth every penny.

The body on your $50 car is nicer than my $850 car. Congrats!

White Vinegar does a good job removing rust in the tank.

The body on that $50 car is nicer than the body of my $2500 car...

igotit

10th July 2015, 01:44

Thanx for the support guys.
Today i done a water pump,and timming belt job on a 07 tiberon.
For payment the guy will buy the fuel pump and a few other items for the miata.

Awesome deal in my book......and he supplied the brew.
Root beer flavored beer.

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150710_003012_zpsjespwotw.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150710_003012_zpsjespwotw.jpg.html)

newtownhood

10th July 2015, 02:06

that rootbeer is awesome. keep up the good work with your project. And best wishes with your job. Your concern for the spiders shows you're a good guy. It'll all work out in the end.

igotit

10th July 2015, 18:44

Thanx
Fuel pump should be here tuesday.so ill beable to test run engine,set timming and see what other bugs i gotta work out.im confident ill have cooling problems.theres a new watwr pump sittin in the trunk,some of the hard piping been patched with jb weld.

igotit

12th July 2015, 04:13

Got my old daily driver in the garage and apart,this poor truck.168k miles beat this ol girl.they were designed for 100k miles,most mighty max barely made that mark.
Been nursing this girl since 102k miles.
In 94 she was $8500 off the lot with ac and radio....lol.
My last crank cam gear is about to give out.....cant find another to replace it.i may have have to put the 4d55 diesel in her soon.its a direct drop in fit.
Damn discontinued parts.

Ill have to decide soon....diesel swap the mitsu,put a tranny in my sonoma(sonoma has rebuilt engine 94k miles,clean body),or get the miata rollin.
Or do a 4g64 dohc swap and turbo the mitsu....100 hp gain (not my best option at the moment)...lol....but im still missing cam gear.ill research if 4g63 gear will fit.
I need a good daily driver to travel 6 miles per day for work.
On this forum....the miata would be the logical choice....lol.

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150711_234723_zpsambwlzrr.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150711_234723_zpsambwlzrr.jpg.html)
http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150712_005353_zpsch2hkbvt.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150712_005353_zpsch2hkbvt.jpg.html)
http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150712_022005_zpsljm73dsq.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150712_022005_zpsljm73dsq.jpg.html)

igotit

14th July 2015, 20:53

Miatas back in the garage,got fuel pump installed on the sending unit,located some screws to secure it to the tank.
Gonna do a good final tank cleaning,install belts n pullies,flush cooling system and fuel lines then give her a go at running.
Hoping by the weekend shes a runner.

mithril

15th July 2015, 11:12

Good luck, I'm pulling for you.

Cheers
-Bob

igotit

15th July 2015, 13:18

Thanx bob
Im expecting cooling issues due to previous owners shady repairs.

igotit

17th July 2015, 21:01

Spoke to original owner today.
In 07 this miata was parked because one of the metal cooling pipes ruptured.it was an $80 part in 07,and he refused to buy it.
So the miata sat in a garage till 2012.it was then rolled under a carport where his son installed a $1000 radio and speaker system into a non driving car.they tried to repair the cooling pipe and run the car.but she wouldnt fire up due to electrical issues....car not getting fuel.(im willing to bet the gummed up fuel in tank ruined the pump......not electrical issues)
In 2013 they pulled all the fancy speakers and radio gear out and sent the car to the family mechanic (the guy that put the miata in the state that i recieved it in)that mechanic told the owner that the car wouldnt run due to an electrucal issue and wiring harness and computer needed to be replaced.the owner called local mazda dealer,mazda quoted $2800 without labor for the parts.
So she was given up on,rolled out in the field with windows down till january 2015.
In january the same mechanic tried again to get her to run,replaced timing belt,told owner it ran great for 1 hour then died.engine had no compression.
When i recieved it it had no compression due to cams 180 degrees off and cam gears installed wrong causing no compression.
Scrap yard offered $60.....i offered $50.
Since 2012 he been trying to sell the miata,started off at $3000.
I offered $600....he refused.

I didnt have the heart to tell the owner that his mechanic is the reason the car is in such bad shape,i simply told him the belt may have jumped timming.he heard i had the car running and he stated he wasnt happy with his mechanic nephew.

An $80 cooling pipe....lead to bad fuel pump....to its present state.
Inorance and neglect landed the car in my possesion.
This car was scratch and ding free untill the mechanic touched it.
The owner is very disturbed about it.

MC70

17th July 2015, 21:23

Wow. And yet, here we are, 8 years after the initial issue and lots of ineptitude you came along at just the right moment to save this little car. You're another chapter in this car's story. I suspect it just didn't want to be driven around by the kind of kid who'd but a boomin' stereo system and 22" Dubz on it. ;)

porterj

17th July 2015, 21:35

:thumbs:

I like to think I rescued my NA too. She was in rough condition when I got her (granted though, not as rough as igotit's!). After many hours and a few thousand dollars (yeah yeah yeah...but the things we do for love), she's sitting pretty. Amazing how you can take a lump of coal and bring out the inner diamond.

FWIW igotit, I'm following your progress/posts on a daily basis!

MC70

17th July 2015, 21:39

:thumbs:

FWIW igotit, I'm following your progress/posts on a daily basis!

It's amazing how restorable most of these cars are. I mean, even if you dumped $8k into a resto on a Miata, you'd wind up with a GREAT, fun, reliable car! What other car can you buy for that price for that kind of fun?

igotit

17th July 2015, 23:47

Thanx for the comments guys.

The guy i bought the miata from is the second owner....really the first owner but tittled transfered from his sons name to his in 08.
He bought the car in 1990 for his sons first car,his son drove it for 125k miles,then gave it to his dad(original buyer in 1990) in 08 a tittle change.
So now i know the cars history.he also stated before the original coolant pipe issue the car drive and ran well,no smoke or oil burning.no major parts ever replaced,no accident history,never an insurance claim.car serviced every 3000 miles,he will try to locate a folder with all the reciepts since 1990,which includes original papers,oil change and parts purchased.
Every little ding and current damage happened in the mechanics possesion.

igotit

18th July 2015, 00:45

Gonna try to put together all the front of the engine.
Timmong belt,and tensioners,spring is all new.re adjusted timming...i had intake 1 tooth off.i now have the 19 teeth between marks on cogs,crank at tdc.
When i recieved the car all the front of engine was undone...belts,brackets,pullies...ect.
Gonna google pics...look at my parts....start assembling to see whats missing.

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150717_233936_zps0xcfpxnq.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150717_233936_zps0xcfpxnq.jpg.html)

igotit

18th July 2015, 01:52

Didnt even google pics....just put it all together.
Both belts on,cas back on ....just have a few more parts to install.gonna flush fuel tank a final time with acetone....then seal sending unit....then flush fuel lines.flush cooling system.....then hopefully fire her up and adjust timming to 10 d btc.

igotit

18th July 2015, 02:38

Everything is installed,pulled off upper rad hose to install intake tube....found this gunk.

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/sevenr341/Mobile%20Uploads/20150718_012946_zpsm7tmu8j5.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/sevenr341/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150718_012946_zpsm7tmu8j5.jpg.html)

jstammer

18th July 2015, 11:59

/\ not good when the stuff in the radiator look like pudding.

BTW, I am truly enjoying reading this story and how you are bringing this car back to life.

igotit

18th July 2015, 16:06

She just ran for 30 mins in my driveway,i dont know whats in the exhayst....but the smell is quite foul and producing lots of white smoke for 20 mins.smoke finally cleared up.i shut her down after 30 mins because the fans never kicked on after the thermostat opened up i started to worry a bit.
Engine ran very rough for about 15 mins,but now she revs fine,idles smooth.
Not bad for a $50 car that hasent ran since 07.

The sensor ontop the thermostat housing is broken....is that the sensor that triggers the fan?

(Edit)
My thermoswitch controls the fan.....thats broken.i did jump tfa to grd....fan runs.
Thanx

igotit

18th July 2015, 16:40

My first test drive....first time in a miata....love it.
Smoked the tires,a little drift action around the cul de sac.
Im in love.
I better stop abusing ol girl and start making a baseline plan

igotit

18th July 2015, 16:50

First startup in 8 years

Watch "91 miata first startup in 8 years" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/cItm0sfGSzE

Johndej

18th July 2015, 17:28

WOW, never saw this thread till today but great read and great job! Hope you put many good miles on the old girl!

igotit

18th July 2015, 17:34

Thanx john
Hopefully i can get my hands on some extra cash to get her back road worthy soon.
Wife already on me to sell it.
I just wanna drive it...lol

pixel wrangler

18th July 2015, 17:46

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::t humbs:

Pacobeagle

18th July 2015, 17:54

Igotit--wish you were closer (I'm in Mobile and recently purchased two NA's). Maybe once you finish we can see about getting a SE Meet!!!

Jose

igotit

18th July 2015, 18:31

It will be awhile before im finished,i estimate around $800 and this car will be road worthy.,that includes new top,new tires,and maintence.
Gotta work the bugs out of her,ac doesnt work,blower fan doesnt come on...numerous wires hanging down under dash from previous owners radio and neon light install.
I put 3 miles on her sofar,i have a slight mis right when i give it gas.....but still running old fuel filter,plugs n wires...ect.
This engine comes alive above 4k rpm....you can feel a good amount of acceleration....almost like a vtec feeling.
Fires right up,idles smooth,reves nicely.
Sofar i have $85 invested in this car.....very happy.

It would probally be awhile before i take this car on a long trip,but ill keep ya in mind if i ever do.mobile is about 4 hour drive from me.

igotit

19th July 2015, 04:55

Just thinkin....i invested a little time and about $35.......the car is running.
This car had a death sentence before i came along.

Epic

Maybe this miatas life has just begun

MC70

19th July 2015, 09:55

Weirdly, this little impractical 'sports car' will probably be the most economical and reliable car you've owned to date. That you got into it incredibly cheaply is just icing on the cake.

guudasitgets

19th July 2015, 10:54

Weirdly, this little impractical 'sports car' will probably be the most economical and reliable car you've owned to date. That you got into it incredibly cheaply is just icing on the cake.

X2, many avenues you can take with this

Sharpie

19th July 2015, 12:48

Just thinkin....i invested a little time and about $35.......the car is running.
This car had a death sentence before i came along.

Epic

Maybe this miatas life has just begun

Epic for sure. Congratulations!

igotit

19th July 2015, 15:43

Thanx guys
I tried to wash the car,test spot on the hood with new finish.....my polishing cloth turned blue....like the paint was rubbing off.
Thats always a good thing right

igotit

19th July 2015, 17:15

Just put timming light,set to 10 degrees tdc @idle.
At 14 degrees she runs so much smoother,but i read 14 lowers the powerband to a lower rpm point and top end performance suffers.
Im good with 10 degrees.

MC70

19th July 2015, 17:46

Yes, it moves the powerband lower in the rev range, and I'm always curious why folks get antsy about this. The power is the same, however you have 'more area' under your power line (if you were reading a dyno) than leaving it at 10 gives you. That means you have more power, faster as you bang through the gears which means you actually don't have to rev it as high. This also means that you get more power in each gear prior to hitting legal limits.

Also, the delta between 10 and 14 is quite noticeable, but isn't earth-shattering. You won't really notice the loss at the top end since you're only really there twice, only for a moment, before you have to shift before you hit legal speed limits. The time you spend getting to the upper revs could be producing more power. In real world driving, it makes lots of sense. Also, even in autocrossing, it simply means you can shift earlier if you want, or leave it in second and hit third earlier and get less of a power loss between shifts.

Todd Barney

20th July 2015, 11:05

Thanx guys
I tried to wash the car,test spot on the hood with new finish.....my polishing cloth turned blue....like the paint was rubbing off.
Thats always a good thing right

Single stage, no clear coat. Not at all unusual on an early Miata to see paint on a buffing cloth.

Kiheirob

20th July 2015, 15:45

+1 on what Todd said. The single stage paint has no clear coat, and when cleaning/polishing/waxing you will pull some color from the oxidized paint. The great thing is that old paint comes back and looks fantastic after a good clean and wax.

igotit

20th July 2015, 18:03

Good info....thanx guys.

igotit

24th July 2015, 00:36

Still getting a hint of smoke from the exhaust,but i havent ran her much.tomorrow ill put 5-10 bucks of gas in the tank and test ride.
Oil still needs to be changed....i cant swing the extra cash.
Hopefully the smoke clears up.
She fires up beautifully,idles and revs smoothly without hesitation.
Today i was offered $2500 again.....i refused to sell.
Would be a nice profit though.

Laz

24th July 2015, 09:02

That's a good offer. I would have probably sold it and told the guy if he needed help fixing it he could hire you. The. You could have jumped on another Miata revival project.

igotit

24th July 2015, 20:25

My problem is if i sell this car....money goes for bills....not another project car.

Just put 13 miles on the odometer trip meter never exceeded 35 mph,she drove great with no issues.
But seatbelt latch gave me issues.all the lights and signals worked as it should.
Temp running normal,30 psi oil in idle.
The floor without carpet did get pretty warm...maybe 115 degrees.
No check engine light....ect.just smooth driving.

wackbards

24th July 2015, 21:21

Heat from trans tunnel is pretty normal. These engines like being cleaned internally (oil control rings, hydraulic lash adjusters, etc.). I've always done a $3 flush with ATF right before oil changes. I hear good things about Rotella T6. Things like seat belt latches like graphite powder. I bet the cheapest graphite you can get is a home depot carpenter pencil @ $0.18 hit with some sand paper...

MC70

25th July 2015, 00:34

IMO you can't replace the car for the money you could sell it for. It is very likely going to be a very reliable and inexpensive car that you own for a tiny fee. That makes sense. While it could be liquidated for bills, it probably makes better financial sense to keep it.

igotit

25th July 2015, 03:29

I agree...cant be replaced

huesmann

25th July 2015, 12:36

You're only into the car for a couple hundred so far, right?

igotit

25th July 2015, 14:35

You're only into the car for a couple hundred so far, right?

Sofar we have $110 total invested,including the thermoswitch that i just installed......and it was free....done a side job(ac recharge),guy bought the switch.

Honestly the only money out of my pocket was $12 of regular unleaded gas.the rest was labor.
Selling this car would be alot of profit.

huesmann

26th July 2015, 10:21

Does that include the $50 initial cost?

igotit

26th July 2015, 11:38

Yep
$50 purchase price,$30 fuel pump,$30 thermoswitch.....thats $110 of money spent sofar.

huesmann

27th July 2015, 08:04

I would hang on to it for now, unless you're totally skint. If working on cars is something you enjoy, this one is probably one of the cheapest you'll find. ;)

igotit

28th July 2015, 19:20

Bad news...im now unemployed.....nothing hiring down here.

MC70

28th July 2015, 20:53

Bad news...im now unemployed.....nothing hiring down here.

That sucks. I'm sorry to hear it.

TX is prospering, particularly near Dallas. If you have some tech or trade skills, this is where you want to be. It is very, very common for a lot of military and tech companies to pay all a person's moving expenses.

igotit

28th July 2015, 23:32

Ill search around,i have a good friend in san antonio with 30 acres,and a 40ft toy hauler/camper.i may try to get a fresh start on that end.but for 35 years ive lived and loved the louisiana bayous.
By all means im going to try to keep the miata and slowly get it road worthy....gonna be hard.

I was let go because 3 weeks ago i had pneumonia,my doctors excuse didnt cover 4 days of absence out of 10 days missed work.in febuary we had mass layoffs,went from 1300 employees down to 400....it was a matter of time before i got cut.
Ill find away to get by....i always do.

MC70

29th July 2015, 06:38

I spent about a year in Biloxi and frequented LA in that time, often heading to NO. I'll say I was surprised to find that east of Dallas there is a very strong NO/Cajun influence which I really love. No swamps like you're describing, and not the same tree density, however it is a good mix, and it is a good place to live. I know TX is often strongly associated with pickup trucks, racism, and general ignorance, however it is one of the most tech-savvy places in the nation, and a very eclectic mix of people.

vwgti101

31st July 2015, 01:02

Stuff like this makes me happy to be a car enthusiast. I see stuff like this on reddit a lot. Nice to see a Miata being saved.

dgoggans7972

1st August 2015, 13:36

in response to the paint question, i bought this one in mid may for
$750... i washed it initially getting crud off... then buffed it with a buffer with cotton bonnett wet.... then last week i went back and cut it by hand with meguair's ultimate compound... then a simple paste turtle wax... i'm am by no means a pro, but the hand cut with the meguairs removed all swirls and after waxing came out great.... paid $12 for the meguairs and had the turtle wax in the garage...had paint peeling off drivers headlight.. ordered a cover already painted nicely from Partgroup.com for $25....bodywork done!!!.. then got 3 or 4 ounces of touch up classic red from a local paint shop to touch up the normal wear here and there....i'm real pleased .. cleaned interior and used a steamer to get the musty smell out.. then painted faded seats with SEM color coat satin black (a fabric/plastic dye)... came out great..my big job was replacing the gas tank... it was too far gone to just wash out... had to drop rear end and swing it to the side to get tank out.. got one from Partgroup for $45 plus $60 shipping... delivered to my door..also did fuel pump, sock, top hose, thermostat, rad cap, changed all fluids, redid calipers and brakes... the more you drive it, the better it runs!!!

scoobybpc

1st August 2015, 15:53

Just stumbled onto this thread. that body would be worth quite a bit here in Canada! funny how a $50 car there looks so clean rust wise.. here everything looks like swiss cheese:D:(

dgoggans7972

1st August 2015, 20:40

scooby.. it IS rust free... spent part of it's life in georgia with the guy's mother that i bought it from... then she sold her son the car.. he lives in birmingham close to me...only thing i did was clean the dirt and pine straw out from behind the front wheel wells and unclog the drains on the vert top where he apparently left it under a pine tree with the top down.. water backed up in the floor board and shorted the computer out.... he pushed it in a basem*nt garage and left it for 5 years... he put it on craigslist for $1000.. i offered him $750 .. the rest is history.... if i keep it... it's going to be babied... it's only got 140k on it....might be worth a road trip down here for you guys to get a rust free one!!

scoobybpc

1st August 2015, 21:34

For sure, you guys have a lot of goodies down there.. your "rough shape" cars are a lot different than ours. unfortunately ours just rot out from all the salt on the roads. If our dollar ever gets better I plan on taking a look down there, I'd love to fly down and drive a miata back thats never seen salt :)

igotit

1st August 2015, 22:11

Make the flight to the coast....its worth it.
This is a bargain anywhere.usually sells for $3k

http://hattiesburg.craigslist.org/cto/5143772562.html

huesmann

2nd August 2015, 08:50

That one's been repainted.

dgoggans7972

2nd August 2015, 10:53

the nose was resprayed when i got it.....you can tell by it's not a perfect match....
.the rest of the body is original paint!!!.. back tag panel is a little faded... i'll probably take it off and respray it... rest of car was rubbed out by hand.....this car spent alot of it's life in a garage..remember i found it in a mildewed basem*nt garage... paint was protected by a nice coat of mildew...(so was the interior and everything else.. covered in mildew)....

scoobybpc

4th August 2015, 07:52

I'll likely make the flight out there or bring a dolly if our dollar ever recovers, right now it makes zero since for me to buy a car there. Actually, it makes more sense for you guys (closer to the boarder) to buy a car here. And thats why im selling one of mine!

igotit

6th August 2015, 01:46

Ah....i forgot about the dollar value these days.....usd is quickly losing its value aswell.

igotit

6th August 2015, 02:54

Dont really wanna discuss my buisness but im in a bind and jobless.my father n law is nice enough to give me money to buy me a dependale vehicle so i can take my old job back.
My old job requires lots of travel.
So instead of of buying another vehicle.....i think ill invest in fixing my 98 sonoma with 98k miles and fixing the miata....one of them is gonna have to be dependable.
So look foward to updates.

huesmann

6th August 2015, 08:42

Once you get the Miata working, it should be reliable. Good luck to you!

scoobybpc

6th August 2015, 09:57

Once you get the Miata working, it should be reliable. Good luck to you!

This! I bought mine with 260k km, I did the maintenance items and I use it on the track. these things are bulletproof if taken care of! :thumbs:

igotit

6th August 2015, 18:06

Father n law didnt wanna pay to fix the sonoma or the miata,he bought me a 98 suburban instead.
It was his noney....cant arguee.
Ill get the miata going soon

huesmann

7th August 2015, 08:01

Sounds like a tow vehicle to me! ;)

igotit

10th August 2015, 18:02

2 days ago i was teaching a friend how to drive a standard using the miata.....the clutch master went out.
He loved driving the miata so much,he ordered the master and slave from amazon for $34
So that more progress that cost me no money.

pigger

10th August 2015, 22:37

There are times when a '98 Suburban would really do the trick. :cool:

Mr Pika

10th August 2015, 22:47

First startup in 8 years

Watch "91 miata first startup in 8 years" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/cItm0sfGSzE

Great job saving the Miata and bring it back to life!:thumbs:
I hope the car sticks around for many, many more happy miles.:)
Best of luck regarding your current situation...:wave:

igotit

11th August 2015, 00:56

Thanx for the luck
I have 2 job interviews tomorrow.
The burbun....just done a coolant flush,some ac work and change a power steering pressure hose.she will make a great work vehicle.

Just explained to my friend how ignition timming works,hes facinated how a timming light makes the crank pully stand still while running.
A general feeling of stopping time.

He wants to drop $2k into the miata right now,im gettin him to hold off....alittle at a time.
He want the car badly....but i refuse to sell.
He was born in 91....and always wanted a miata.

pixel wrangler

11th August 2015, 02:10

Best of luck on the interviews. Knock 'em dead; well not literally:D

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

igotit

24th November 2015, 23:29

Hate to do it....but i have to sell her.bankruptcy forcing me to sell assets.
Got a buyer comming this saturday....very sad.
Thanx for all the help,info and guidence guys.
Ill get another na one day.

92fattz

28th November 2015, 18:40

sorry for your troubles with work and etc. i was loving the thread sad to hear you letting it go. I recently bought my first miata(NA) fun little car. Hope you get another one soon and good luck with financial crisis

Based

28th November 2015, 21:13

Hate to do it....but i have to sell her.bankruptcy forcing me to sell assets.
Got a buyer comming this saturday....very sad.
Thanx for all the help,info and guidence guys.
Ill get another na one day.

Damn man that is terrible...

igotit

3rd December 2015, 20:34

She sold for $1400 .....it was painful to help load her up on the trailer.

Thanx guys

MC70

3rd December 2015, 20:54

Don't lose faith. You'll find another job and Miatas are plentiful. In the mean time, that $50 Miata seems to have given you some profit; Miatas are good like that. :)

igotit

5th December 2015, 00:59

I did find a job at kenworth building trucks,but pay is terrible.
She brought in some profit......but i really wanted to keep her

Thanx